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97L still disorganized, but bringing heavy rains to the northeast Caribbean
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 12:27 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010 +1
A large region of disturbed weather (Invest 97L) covers the Lesser Antilles Islands and waters near Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. The storm is headed west-northwest at about 10 mph, and will bring heavy rain showers and gusty winds to the Lesser Antilles, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, and the Dominican Republic today. These showers can be seen on Martinique radar this morning, and Martinique reported a wind gust of 35 mph this morning during one of 97L's heavy squalls. An upper level trough of low pressure is contributing to the heavy rain showers by making the atmosphere more unstable. This same trough is also bringing moderate wind shear of 10 - 20 knots, which will keep any development today very slow to occur. Recent satellite imagery shows a large area of intense thunderstorms associated with 97L, but the activity is not well organized, and there are no signs of a surface circulation. Long range radar out of Puerto Rico also shows no signs of rotation.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Invest 97L.

Forecast for 97L
The SHIPS model predicts that wind shear over 97L will slowly fall over the next three days, reaching the low range, 5 - 10 knots, by Thursday, which may allow the storm to develop into a tropical depression, if its center can stay over water. All of the major computer models now show development of 97L into a tropical depression Wednesday or Thursday, just north of Hispaniola. By Thursday, a passing trough of low pressure is expected to pull 97L to the northeast away from Hispaniola, and rains should end by Friday on the island if this forecast verifies. NHC is giving 97L a 20% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday. 97L will move at about 5 - 10 mph today through Wednesday, bringing the potential for an extended 3-day period of heavy rains for the islands in its path. These rains may result in life-threatening flash flooding and mudslides in Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic today through Wednesday, and for Haiti Tuesday through Thursday. Flash flood watches are posted for the Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico today.

Elsewhere in the tropics
An area of disturbed weather near 10N, 47W is under a high 20 knots of wind shear, and is headed northwest into a region of even higher wind shear of 20 - 30 knots. Satellite imagery shows only a limited amount of heavy thunderstorms, and there is plenty of dry air in the vicinity that is interfering with development. NHC is giving the disturbance a 10% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday.

Most of the models indicate the possibility that a strong tropical disturbance capable of becoming a tropical depression will form in the Central or Southern Caribbean 6 - 8 days from now.

Next update
I'll have an update Tuesday morning.

Jeff Masters
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351. farhaonhebrew 10:16 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
Quoting mrpuertorico:

Susan Soltero we are my friend i told my girl it was going to rain all night and all day too
Hi from Juncos, yesterday was a nasty rainy day over the central east..is the low just south of St Croix?Link
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352. aislinnpaps 10:16 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
Oh, and Good evening, everyone.
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353. aislinnpaps 10:22 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
And the rest of it:

... AN OUTDOOR BURN BAN IS IN EFFECT FOR THE ENTIRE STATE OF LOUISIANA AT THIS TIME...

.THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LAKE CHARLES HAS ISSUED A FIRE WEATHER WATCH... WHICH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 7 PM CDT THIS EVENING AS A DOME OF HIGH PRESSURE REMAINS IN PLACE OVER THE REGION.

NORTHERLY WINDS OF 10 TO 15 MPH AND GUSTS TO 20 MPH ARE POSSIBLE TODAY AND WHEN COMBINED WITH LOW RELATIVE HUMIDITY AND THE CONTINUING DROUGHT THIS WILL CREATE THE ENVIRONMENT FOR EXPLOSIVE FIRE GROWTH.
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354. farhaonhebrew 10:31 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
is the low just south of St Croix?Link
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355. docrod 10:37 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
Quoting farhaonhebrew:
is the low just south of St Croix?Link


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
439 PM AST MON OCT 4 2010

.SYNOPSIS...A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE...ASSOCIATED WITH A
TROPICAL WAVE...LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF THE LOCAL ISLANDS LATE THIS
AFTERNOON...WILL MOVE SLOWLY WEST NORTHWEST DURING THE NEXT FEW
DAYS. AT THE SAME TIME...A MID TO UPPER LEVEL LOW/TROUGH WILL
CONTINUE MOVING WEST TO WEST NORTHWEST...WITH THE UPPER LOW/TROUGH
EVENTUALLY BECOMING LOCATED IN A FAVORABLE LOCATION TO AID IN
CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT LOCALLY...BEFORE FILLING. THIS EVOLVING
PATTERN WILL ALLOW A VERY MOIST AND UNSTABLE AIR MASS TO CONTINUE
TO ADVECT ACROSS THE LOCAL AREA AND INTERACT WITH LOCAL EFFECTS
AND AFOREMENTIONED FEATURES...TO PRODUCE INCREASING AMOUNTS OF
CLOUDINESS...SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE LOCAL ISLANDS.
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356. clwstmchasr 10:40 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
Quoting largeeyes:


How in the world does something from in the W Carib and "go out to sea"?


Good question. But I assume he means that it will not be a threat to the CONUS.
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357. Orcasystems 10:45 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
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358. TampaSpin 10:45 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
Looks like nearly every Major Model has a disturbance Organizing in the SW Caribbean now......That is a change and will have some heads turning!
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359. TampaSpin 11:01 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
I have the Models up and running on my Blog if anyone would like to view.
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360. Bjanmama 11:03 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
Hello everyone! this is my first post of the season ( sort of late for the party/fete!) While everyone from the N.Leewards,Virgin Islands and P.R. keep wondering "where's the beef", seems like 97L broke off from a mushrooming trough,Low and active moving convection from Venezuela etc. in the Eastern Caribbean and slip-slidded under those islands- who are beginning to get not so much moisture from 97l but from this monstrous system that sluglike is now moving NW. Meanwhile more convectionis in the making for us- and further concern is the Low at 45 around 13 to add to the fun. I find the CONUS posts amusing re lack of anything to report except falling tempertures, since we have been deluged by flash floods, extreme thunderstorms and periods of very heavy rains since Friday, anything but boring. The prognosis for much of October is the same. It is beginning to cause serious problems- for example today virtually everything was closed, but many businesses said they would open after 12pm as that is when the flash flood warning was supposed to end.

It seems that the prognosis for the Atlantic, that we are in for late season storms is accurate. Activity will not only be in the western Caribbean, but also generated by activity in the Atlantic. So don't get bored yet! We here continue to look to the east.
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361. hydrus 11:07 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


This coming from the person who called Nicole a fish storm.

Was Karl a fish too?
No. Charley was,,,,j,k....really...j.k..You may not even be old enough to catch that one..No pun intended..:)
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362. NRAamy 11:13 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
Hi Tampa...Orca....

I can't work tonite on the Night Shift.... I'm gonna leave the main blog alone for awhile....
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363. TampaSpin 11:15 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
Quoting NRAamy:
Hi Tampa...Orca....

I can't work tonite on the Night Shift.... I'm gonna leave the main blog alone for awhile....


What the hell we gonna do.....:)
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365. weatherlover94 11:22 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
Quoting largeeyes:


How in the world does something from in the W Carib and "go out to sea"?


remember hurricane michelle? 2001 it did
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366. plywoodstatenative 11:24 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
Fill me in on whats going on with the system in the Caribbean, been at work all day and would like some ideas.
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367. doorman79 11:26 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:
Hey there!

About that Hammond ob...

I have noticed that it reads higher than Slidell, BR, McComb, and MSY during the day, and does so much worse when it is hotter. Not sure if 79 F really happened today, or not. You might try to see if any PWS records support it...

Actually asked Ken Graham (NWS Slidell WFO MIC) about it. He said they know it has a warm daytime bias, but the airport isn't interested in spending the money. (I didn't ask, "So why are you guys still using it as an official ob site?!?", but wanted to...)
;-)


And to think, I was glad it was just 79 lol!
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368. JLPR2 11:30 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
97L has finally established a decent surface reflection and it is to the east of where they place it currently.
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370. DontAnnoyMe 11:39 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
Eastern NC recovery in progress

Windsor residents clean up after flooding
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371. plywoodstatenative 11:43 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
Even though its to the east what are the steering winds in that area?
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373. CybrTeddy 11:51 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
Hope this wakes up the blog.
A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED OVER THE EXTREME NORTHEASTERN
CARIBBEAN SEA CONTINUES TO PRODUCE A DISORGANIZED AREA OF SHOWERS
AND THUNDERSTORMS THAT EXTENDS FROM THE EASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA
NORTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE LEEWARD ISLANDS TO THE ADJACENT ATLANTIC
WATERS. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO BECOME MORE CONDUCIVE
FOR DEVELOPMENT BY TUESDAY NIGHT OR WEDNESDAY AS THIS SYSTEM MOVES
GENERALLY NORTHWESTWARD AT 5 TO 10 MPH...AND THERE IS A MEDIUM
CHANCE...40 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE
DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS. REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT...LOCALLY
HEAVY RAINS ARE POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO OVER THE
LEEWARD ISLANDS...THE VIRGIN ISLANDS...PUERTO RICO...AND
HISPANIOLA.
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375. Tazmanian 11:52 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
97L back lol i did not think it will go up too 40%
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376. MiamiHurricanes09 11:56 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
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377. JLPR2 11:57 PM GMT die 04o October, anno 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:
97L back lol i did not think it will go up too 40%


See Taz, got to wait till they are really dead to Rip em XD
I bit my tongue several times :P
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378. BDADUDE 12:01 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
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379. JLPR2 12:01 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
Slight improvement in Wind Shear



tonight should be interesting
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380. TampaSpin 12:06 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
Quoting caneswatch:


Great, I think they'll win it all. BTW, I heard there are models developing something?


Ya go to my blog and check out the models.
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381. Dakster 12:07 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
Are we at doomcon 4 yet? Medium chance of development now...


AMY - WHERE'S the darn fork!
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382. DDR 12:09 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
Quoting Bjanmama:
Hello everyone! this is my first post of the season ( sort of late for the party/fete!) While everyone from the N.Leewards,Virgin Islands and P.R. keep wondering "where's the beef", seems like 97L broke off from a mushrooming trough,Low and active moving convection from Venezuela etc. in the Eastern Caribbean and slip-slidded under those islands- who are beginning to get not so much moisture from 97l but from this monstrous system that sluglike is now moving NW. Meanwhile more convectionis in the making for us- and further concern is the Low at 45 around 13 to add to the fun. I find the CONUS posts amusing re lack of anything to report except falling tempertures, since we have been deluged by flash floods, extreme thunderstorms and periods of very heavy rains since Friday, anything but boring. The prognosis for much of October is the same. It is beginning to cause serious problems- for example today virtually everything was closed, but many businesses said they would open after 12pm as that is when the flash flood warning was supposed to end.

It seems that the prognosis for the Atlantic, that we are in for late season storms is accurate. Activity will not only be in the western Caribbean, but also generated by activity in the Atlantic. So don't get bored yet! We here continue to look to the east.

Hi,welcome to the WU blog ,im guessing your from Barbados?
Here in Trinidad w'ere having a break from the rainy season.Although last night was a mess,but yea if your from windwards then you know that come the 2nd week (at least here) in October rainfall starts to increase again peaking in late November and droping off by mid December drastically.
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384. 954FtLCane 12:10 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
Quoting weatherlover94:


remember hurricane michelle? 2001 it did

I guess Cuba doesn't count as land.
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386. tropicfreak 12:12 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:
Slight improvement in Wind Shear



tonight should be interesting


Could be upped to 50% by 2am.
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387. tropicfreak 12:13 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Hope this wakes up the blog.
A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED OVER THE EXTREME NORTHEASTERN
CARIBBEAN SEA CONTINUES TO PRODUCE A DISORGANIZED AREA OF SHOWERS
AND THUNDERSTORMS THAT EXTENDS FROM THE EASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA
NORTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE LEEWARD ISLANDS TO THE ADJACENT ATLANTIC
WATERS. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO BECOME MORE CONDUCIVE
FOR DEVELOPMENT BY TUESDAY NIGHT OR WEDNESDAY AS THIS SYSTEM MOVES
GENERALLY NORTHWESTWARD AT 5 TO 10 MPH...AND THERE IS A MEDIUM
CHANCE...40 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE
DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS. REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT...LOCALLY
HEAVY RAINS ARE POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO OVER THE
LEEWARD ISLANDS...THE VIRGIN ISLANDS...PUERTO RICO...AND
HISPANIOLA.


I think we are gonna need a little more than 40% to wake us up. LOL
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388. JLPR2 12:13 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
Quoting tropicfreak:


Could be upped to 50% by 2am.


Yeah, depends on how well it does during D-max, but the great thing is we got radar, way better to see how it is really doing under all the cirrus. :]
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389. txjac 12:15 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
I am so loving this fall weather here in Houston ...iit needs to be like this all the time...btw, anyone know how long its gonna last? Thanks and good evening/afternoon/morning to all
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390. caneswatch 12:19 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:


Ya go to my blog and check out the models.


Ah I see it. Thoughts on it? jw
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391. pottery 12:20 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
Quoting DDR:

Hi,welcome to the WU blog ,im guessing your from Barbados?
Here in Trinidad w'ere having a break from the rainy season.Although last night was a mess,but yea if your from windwards then you know that come the 2nd week (at least here) in October rainfall starts to increase again peaking in late November and droping off by mid December drastically.

Greetings to you, and the Bajan Lady....
Been a really nice day here, after that incredible light-show over Venezuela last evening that migrated all the way from NW through W, S, and then SE by late last night.
Fantastic lightning that went on for hours....
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392. WeatherNerdPR 12:22 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
Quoting 954FtLCane:

I guess Cuba doesn't count as land.

Neither would Nicaragua or the Bahamas I guess...
Good Evening Everybody.
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394. JLPR2 12:24 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
Winds shifted to the west on buoy 42060, meaning there is a low to its north, the buoy is at 16°30'0" N 63°30'0" W

Link
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395. Gearsts 12:27 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
You can see the low 97L on the PR long range radar is looking better.
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396. WeatherNerdPR 12:29 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
Quoting Gearsts:
You can see the low 97L on the PR long range radar is looking better.

I saw it too, seems to be close to St Croix.
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398. atmoaggie 12:33 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
Quoting aislinnpaps:
And the rest of it:

... AN OUTDOOR BURN BAN IS IN EFFECT FOR THE ENTIRE STATE OF LOUISIANA AT THIS TIME...

.THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LAKE CHARLES HAS ISSUED A FIRE WEATHER WATCH... WHICH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 7 PM CDT THIS EVENING AS A DOME OF HIGH PRESSURE REMAINS IN PLACE OVER THE REGION.

NORTHERLY WINDS OF 10 TO 15 MPH AND GUSTS TO 20 MPH ARE POSSIBLE TODAY AND WHEN COMBINED WITH LOW RELATIVE HUMIDITY AND THE CONTINUING DROUGHT THIS WILL CREATE THE ENVIRONMENT FOR EXPLOSIVE FIRE GROWTH.
I wonder if that will still be in place this weekend (maybe) and will apply to camp fires at state parks (probably)...

Was hoping to go camping...and the campfire is usually our "stove" for at least part of our menu...
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400. pottery 12:42 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
For those who missed it, and have nothing to do ...
some interesting discussion (I thought so, anyhow) this morning on the blog.
On whether or not the season has lived-up to 'expectations', and if not, why not?.
Some good points by Neopolitan and others.

I think it is safe to say, that there was no firm consensus.......
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401. Dakster 12:44 AM GMT die 05o October, anno 2010    
Pottery - About the only thing I can say that is true about this blog 100% of the time is that there isn't a consensus....

Two wunderbloggers, three opinions.
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